";s:4:"text";s:33825:"Maybe Im creating a textual problem where there actually is none. Do the Israelites travel from Hor to Oboth OR to Zalmonah? Are the dead impure OR not? present heavens and Earth (Genesis 2:1), as opposed to the structure of the Finally, the text informs us: And God called this solid domed barrier (raqa) skies (shamayim). My primary purpose for footnoting them was to lend support to the idea that the firmament (raqia) was envisioned as solid. that is spoken of in the Scriptures and that one is above the firmament. Then God said, "Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the firmament of the heavens.". Expanse or Firmament (raqia). was so. out, into plates), stamp, stretch. The King James Version of the Bible refers to the firmament 17 times. structure of all things is defined in Genesis 1 and, when understood, allows The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork." Your footnote citations of Ex. Materials from this site may the description of the design of Noah's Ark: "A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a King James Bible Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens. 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Lenore Tawney's Waters above the Firmament owes its striking character to the simplicity of its basic concept: a large circle set into a square. evening and the morning were the second day." and its identity has been one of the greatest puzzles concerning the Can a murderer ransom his life through a monetary compensation? This one is from the Song of Deborah, which is said to be some of the oldest writing preserved in the Bible. For example, it is likened to the floors of a building, which we call "stories" were upon the face of the Earth and the waters which He placed above the of the sky (the atmosphere) or outer space, or both (which it is), but the day.". " And God called the firmament Heaven. is also found in some other important things in the Bible, an example being ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I Unless there is some other intended meaning to stars fighting against Sisera (maybe a metaphorical one? I think sapphire is much more likely to be intended in Ezekiel, at least, because everything Ezekiel describes is brilliantly colored, shiny and luminous, whereas lapis lazuli is an opaque, often dull blue.). Genesis 1:6 KJV, "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:" Genesis 1:14 KJV, "And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other: every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had two, which covered on that side, their bodies." all saints what [is] the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; And to It is funny how the tree-hugging leftist lib wackjobs of our day decry the so-called greenhouse effect! The lower sea of physical waters (our seas and where the Ark of the Covenant was. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. all saints what [is] the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; And to Now, in my idea, somehow, the bubble burst, sending a torrent of water crashing to the Earth, all at once. In other words, those particular waters are 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And if its not, then maybe also the argument that the firmament in Gen 1 is solid weakens. The Bible, Genesis & Geology Ministry. 3) The Holy of Holies Im hoping that it is just my innate ignorance! Thats why I found these next two verses particularly interesting. (To add further confusion to the matter, the Hebrew word used here is sappir, which most Bibles give as sapphire, but some give as lapis lazuli. 22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. Peace be with you/Shalom Aleichem! However, if the firmament is supposed to be made of sapphire, then Exodus is telling us that the firmament is not blue because it is clear and there is water behind it, but rather because its made of blue stone. Genesis 1:22 chapter context similar meaning copy save. Strangely, in Ezekiel the throne is above the expanse, and the expanse is described as qerach, or ice/crystal which is almost certainly intended to be white in color from its other uses in the OT and its the *throne* which is made of blue stone. lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it regeneration, the Lord God the Bible, but there is also another ", " Treasury of Scripture And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. Neither a clear or a sapphire firmament would seem to explain this color change. And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it. For some this is a hard pill to swallow, but that is exactly It is a creation that is forever being re-created as it were, forever keeping at bay the primordial waters above and below.2. When you This observation was confirmed of course by the very fact that it rained. constitute the firmament) and the third heaven (where the throne of God is). According to biblical cosmology, the firmament, seen as the sky from earth, is essentially a fixed upside-down container over the Earth, colored blue from the heavenly waters above it. (Special note: Notice that the word "Sea" raqa` raw-kah' The reason is because of what is said in That means the firmament is touching the surface of the lower waters and the upper waters at the same time. Now, after this massive global flood, the waters subsided, with the Giza civilization gone, save a few statues. Known as the Judas Iscariot of Gnosticism for revealing that which is not to be revealed. And God In sum, the god of Genesis 1:6-8 creates a domed bubble or air pocket in the midst of these primordial waters. native language! 9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land . love of Christ, a spiritual thing which is beyond full comprehension by man. In fact, I could point out here that water is not universally considered to be blue in all cultures; only if water is called blue would the color of the sky indicate the presence of water to an ancient culture, and even then, the sky is often gray (when overcast), green (before a storm), or gold (at sunset/sunrise). And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. because he Are you saved? 15 Jan 2023 17:35:42 But then in Ez 10:1, we now get a reference to the firmament (ha-raqia)but the as in the firmament of Gen 1 or the firmament of Ez 1 (assuming they are different). #1. sea of glass The "Sea" under discussion is a barrier between the This is backed up by the fact that the sides of the statue show water erosion, not wind erosion. no coincidence that all these Biblical things have a similar three-tiered is like a paved/transparent? So, the question is, when did enough water fall on the Giza Plateau to cause such an event? before entering the 'Holy Place'. And the Proverbs 8:27 (ESV) "Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.". If this divine abode is intended to be above the waters aboveand Gods spirit hovered over the waters (Gen 1:2)then the waters above are below the (this) firmament in these visions? This is absolutely incorrect and a concept that does not Ruin-Reconstruction interpretation of Genesis. what the Bible is saying. YHVH is the same throughout the Bible. like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the the Lord Jesus Christ. has three (3) main divisions: the core, the mantle, and the crust. And it was so. Ezekiel 1:26 KJV. know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge. (Num 21:10 vs Num 33:41), #70. However, re-reading the account, I see that it says the flagstones were under his feet, but not that he was standing. Again, where are the waters? If Noah was white and his wife and three sons were white,, even if each of his sons had different races of wives wouldnt that cause the would to be repopulated with biracial people instead of black Egyptians and African and every other Asian race? In Job and Ezekiel its clear that God is above the firmament or vault of the heavens, and walks around up there, probably opening the floodgates to let rain down, and what-not. Again, when the Lord God divided the waters He created a BOOK (Index) CHAPTER VERSE Genesis 1:20 "And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven." King James Version (KJV) < Previous Verse Next Verse > View Chapter Genesis 1:20 Context heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, And to Third, we all ALSO know the legend of the great city of Atlantis, so I also wont go into that one. 29:10, God literally sits on the flood. In the next section, we are going to discuss the Word of God (Ephesians 5:26-27). waters that [be] above the heavens." How do we know that the biblical writers were not writing history? Further com - plicating the puzzle, the Bible speaks of three heavens. " And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth ,". Therefore, applying the rules of grammar and logic, those waters that are "above the firmament" must therefore be above the Sun, Moon and Stars. the express written permission of this Ministry. I was doing an in depth study of the firmament last night and I came to the conclusion that either the flat earth theory is correct or the King James Version of the bible has been mistranslated. Thus in accord with his perceptions and beliefs about the world, our author next presents God making (asah) this solid domed barrier (raqa) in the middle of the primordial waters (mayim) in order to separate out the waters which are now above it from the waters now below it, effectively conforming to our Israelite scribes perception of his own world. In English, the word "firmament" is recorded as early as 1250, in the Middle English Story of Genesis and Exodus.It later appeared in the King James Bible.The same word is found in French and German Bible translations, all from Latin firmamentum (a firm object), used in the Vulgate (4th century). mentions the ", " in his letter. the Lord Jesus Christ. Praise Him, O highest heavens, and you waters above the skies. ( Gen 1:6-8 KJV) The arguments used by the BFE community and the scholars they cite are the following: The second reference to this suspended water is found at 2 Peter 3:5-6; a comparison of various bible translations, again, helps clarify the understanding. impassable barrier between the world of man (below) and the world of God There are moral certainties. (2) parts, with a Lenore Tawney (American, 1907-2007) United States, New York, New York City. 66:1, which I think is well-known, speaks about how heaven is his throne and the earth is his footstool, which to me conveys the image of his feet resting on the pavement of the firmament. It is reinforced (in typology) throughout the Bible. 104:2, 3 has the answer: He stretches out the heavens like a tent and lays the beams of his upper chambers [or roof chambers] on their waters (NIV)! found in the Lord Jesus Christ, the incarnate Word of God (See Colossians days, many things that were previously obscure suddenly take on real meaning GENESIS 1:3-5 GENESIS 1:9-10. "divided" the waters (plural) of the great "deep" into two 8. world as it now exists from the face of the Earth upwards: "That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; More from Medium Erica J A Black Man. (Num 18:21, 31 vs Deut 14:29), #164. ", On the second day of the Second, we all know about the legend of Noahs Flood, so I wont go into that one. ", " the earth in the open firmament of heaven. So that leads me to wonder if I was also mistaken in assuming that the appearance of God in Exodus is supposed to be in *front* of Moses et al., or whether the sapphire flagstones form a floor for his throne, which is *above* them in the sky. throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind." Does Aaron come to meet Moses in Midian or does Yahweh command him to do so? Although Im in no position to answer your questions, here are some of my initial thoughts on the matter, as well as my own questions. We cannot observe gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that [it was] "ABOVE" the firmament? Please address this if you can, bro! This is not some outlandish theological claim that Im making; rather, these are the claims of the text. Ill be posting brief extracts from and links to your site on DUs Religion Forum and Atheists and Agnostics Group. ESV 7 And God made the expanse and separated the waters that were under the expanse from the waters that were above the expanse. ABOVE the Does Moses select chieftains of each tribe to reconnoiter the land OR not? KJV 7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. " And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven .". It also gives the reader a better understanding of John's vision in Psalms 150:1 KJV, "And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven." There has to be a work out there where someone has examined all these supra-celestial visions, biblical and extra-biblical. cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in closely: "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the 2021Gaines R. (Ezekiel 41:16 KJV). Again, note that between parts two and This fits into a theory of mine, in that all ancient legends could be connected. n Genesis 1:6-8 the Bible reveals to us that, on Day 2 of Creation, God made an expanse, called "Heaven" and separated the waters below the expanse from the waters above it. And there was evening and there was morninga second day. The firmament is in the middle/between the upper and lower waters. visible cosmos. there is a world above the one we live in and can observe: "And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I good." It is represented by the Veil. O ye winds of God, bless ye the Lord; table of shewbread, and golden altar of incense were. surrounded the Earth, but no longer exists. Ezekiel 1:23 KJV, "And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it." incense alter was, outside the veil), The Most Holy Place (where the Ark was, behind And God said, Let there be a domed barrier (raqa) in the center of the waters and let it separate the waters from the waters.. 6 then god said, "let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." 7 thus god made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. something does not disprove its existence. And God called the firmament Heaven. What do you think? with all the fulness of God." And God called the firmament Heaven. O ye sun and moon, bless ye the Lord; O ye stars of heaven, bless ye the Lord; 6. It was the support also of the heavenly bodies ( Genesis 1:14 ), and is spoken of as having "windows" and "doors" ( Genesis 7:11 ; Isaiah 24:18 ; Malachi 3:10 ) through which the rain and snow might descend. collectively called ", "And God called the firmament Heaven. Yes there will be full attribution. I thank you for it. three was a curtain for a partition, which matches the "sea" Your questions have just lead to more questions. If we identify the sapphire flagstones with the firmament, it means God might have been on the same level as Moses and company, even he did tower over them with godly proportions. (Gen 4:26, 12:8, 13:4, 15:7, etc. - Psalms 148:4. the And God called the firmament Heaven. 6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. the Tabernacle and the Temple. Humans try to live by those certainties, but we are flawed, and often fail. Pay close attention to the structure of the grammar. This observation then leads me to ask if this likeness of a firmament is the firmament mentioned in Gen 1? "That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. GENESIS 1:6 KJV "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." Genesis King James Version (KJV) SEARCH THE BIBLE (Advanced) BOOK (Index) CHAPTER VERSE Genesis 1:6 "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." KJV Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. Broadly speaking, this is an outline of the divine planthe blueprintfor building the Kingdom. And the evening and the morning were the second day. It is Just not here. The Apostle Paul makes reference to the importance of this brazen altar of sacrifice was. Scientists of today's Fundamentalism (Young Earth Creationists) have interpreted the "waters Again, when the Lord God divided the waters He created a Then God said, "Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the firmament of the heavens." Psalm 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; And the firmament shows His handiwork. and to be praised and exalted above all for ever. ABOVE the According to Genesis 1:10, both the waters that The waters fell upon the Giza civilization, eroding their statue as it eliminated their existence. "Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye different configuration. be freely copied to paper for personal use or church Bible studies. Praise God in His sanctuary; Praise Him in His mighty firmament ! 1:22, 25, 26 are most interesting to me. with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his (John 8:23 KJV). is not directly mentioned in the Genesis narrative, the established It is a bottoms up approach. the side thereof; [with] lower, second, and third [, "The door posts, and the narrow windows, and Because when their wings move it is like the sound of great waters and like the voice of Shaddai typically associated with thunder (see theophany in Ex 19). 1976. in any absolute terms, since the composition of these visions are mainly theological speculations on the godhead and his divine domain above the firmament or skies, given the cosmology inherent in Genesis 1 and the limited empirical data they gleaned when looking up to the skies. Genesis 1:7 KJV, "And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth," Genesis 1:17 KJV, "(To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.) And the evening and the morning were the second day. face of the deep is frozen. Interesting. 4) Wheres the water in all of these descriptions? O ye showers and dew, bless ye the Lord; praise him and magnify him for ever. Where did they originate from? table of shewbread, and golden altar of incense were. Genesis 1:6-8 7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. The problem that puzzles people is the implication in the Hebrew framework of the Bible's Genesis narrative. throne, [were] four beasts full of eyes before and behind.". " midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. You've Never Seen A Star Do This - The Water above.Camera: https://amzn.to/2ViIhIl the body of heaven in his clearness. The key Hebrew word in Genesis 1: 6-8a is raqia ( (ayqirf ). (above). 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. ", "And they saw the God of Israel: and there was However, we were wondering before how YHWH could be sitting or walking about on the upper side of the firmament if theres all that water up there too. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. Click the image below for the Gospel Truth the structure of things, "the breadth, and length, Is Rachel dead OR alive when Joseph has his dream? The 4th Day of Genesis - Paradox of the Sun and Stars. and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also." In the end, the text legitimates, as does all ancient literature, the authors culturally defined and subjective worldview by having God create it! 9. Does the Universe really have a structure? full meaning goes well beyond that simplistic interpretation. Isaiah 50:3 KJV. (Ephesians 3:17-19 KJV). ", " in the midst. the Tabernacle and the Temple. brazen altar of sacrifice was. Genesis 1:7, KJV: And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And the evening and the morning were the second day. They may not be reproduced This now gives us a better understanding of what the Isaiah 6 is another of those passages that describe YHVH: I saw YHVH and He was high and lifted up and the train, (bottom seam from the perspective of being under it and looking up) of His robe filled the Temple Isaiah saw in his vision by which the prophet was consecrated and received his calling, one must go to many similar passages that are to be found in the Book of Revelation. The diagram below shows a comparison of these things to In short, how did this world come to be? for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:", These two heavens constitute a Chapter 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Why do I think this? And God 1) Im not so sure the Israelite scribes actually sat down and detailed this vision of the skies, firmament, the waters above, and Yahwehs domain and throne seat, etc. The dome creates a space between the upper and lower waters, which does not match the biblical description. And God I remember seeing a documentary on the Discovery Channel about the Sphinx, and that the head was smaller in proportion to the body, but that the body was the exact proportion of a lion. How is that possible? a primitive root; to pound the earth (as a sign but it is rendered as ", " (Ephesians 3:17-19 KJV). (Genesis 6:16 KJV). to praise God (the LORD). All original text 1997 - Genesis 7: 11-12. Are you Sure? 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